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<title>Hickory Withe Presbyterian Church Pastor&#x27;s Blog</title><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/index.html</link><description>The thoughts and reflections of Ed Eubanks&#x2c; Pastor of Hickory Withe Presbyterian Church.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><dc:rights>Copyright 2007 Ed Eubanks&#x2c; Jr.</dc:rights><dc:date>2008-10-06T14:20:44-05:00</dc:date><admin:generatorAgent rdf:resource="http://www.realmacsoftware.com/" />
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<lastBuildDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:44 -0500</lastBuildDate><item><title>Manichean</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Culture</category><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-10-06T14:20:44-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/b9b368313aa867c41649277a9d3ba2b2-193.php#unique-entry-id-193</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/b9b368313aa867c41649277a9d3ba2b2-193.php#unique-entry-id-193</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:15px; ">manəˈkēən<br />adjective (chiefly historical)<br /><br />of or characterized by dualistic contrast or conflict between opposites.<br /><br />____________________<br />Heard or read four times (and counting) over the past three days to describe the current political race.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>What it means to love the sinner and hate the sin</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Church Life</category><dc:date>2008-10-06T10:46:53-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/39e068f6ae847946591102114454bf7a-190.php#unique-entry-id-190</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/39e068f6ae847946591102114454bf7a-190.php#unique-entry-id-190</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:15px; ">My daughter wrote on the sofa the other day. It wasn&rsquo;t an accident-- it was a letter &ldquo;p&rdquo; and a little design beside it. When Marcie and I discovered it, we were naturally upset. We asked her about it, and she said she did it &ldquo;because she wanted to.&rdquo; She confirmed that she knew she wasn&rsquo;t supposed to do this sort of thing. So we disciplined her for it, and talked with her about how writing on anything other than paper is very bad behavior.<br /><br />But here&rsquo;s the thing: throughout the discussion and discipline, I noted in my head how many times we also affirmed that we loved her so much, unconditionally, and no amount of disobedience would cause us to stop loving her. After the discipline was done, she wanted to snuggle, and though she cried for a moment she did not withdraw her affection or affirmation that she trusted our love deeply.<br /><br />I read something not long ago surrounding a discussion of how the church treats homosexuals. This particular comment came from someone who professed saving faith in Jesus Christ, and who also stated their inclination toward homosexuality. It was clear from his comment that he had been treated with varying degrees of &ldquo;badly&rdquo; over the years, particularly by the church. <br /><br />The discussion they were participating in focused on how the church </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><em>ought</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; "> to treat those who are homosexuals, or who are inclined toward homosexuality. One phrase that kept coming up was the old standby: &ldquo;love the sinner, hate the sin.&rdquo; This fellow, though, responded strongly to that, saying, &ldquo;I </span><span style="font-size:15px; font-weight:bold; "><em>hate</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; "> &lsquo;love the sinner, hate the sin.&rsquo; If you hate my sin of homosexuality, then you hate me.&rdquo;<br /><br />I can understand how he might have arrived at this conclusion. Chances are good that some of those who he had encountered in the past had done a poor job of loving the sinner while hating his sin-- it probably didn&rsquo;t feel much like love OR a differentiation between the sinner and his sin. <br /><br />But, just as we faced when we disciplined our daughter for her sin, it is possible to love the sinner deeply, forgivingly, even unconditionally, while despising their sin and its effect. Had we overlooked Molly&rsquo;s sin and disobedience-- had we simply said, &ldquo;that is no big deal&rdquo; and not addressed it at all-- we would have loved her </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><em>less</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; ">, not more. I think we instinctively know this about parenting; often, the judgments that are waged against &ldquo;bad parents&rdquo; are focused on their willingness or ability to discipline their children.<br /><br />But we don&rsquo;t seem to instinctively know this in other relationships. Somehow, loving another in a non-parental relationship implies that we overlook their sin and error more than we address it. In fact, the precedent suggested by this hurting young man creates an environment where it is impossible to love someone AND keep them accountable.<br /><br />Luke 6:41-42 is often invoked in defense of that view. How dare we discuss the speck in our brother&rsquo;s eye? Of course we must deal with the log in our own eye first. But a more careful reading of Luke 6:42 reveals that, in the end, both the log in my eye and the speck in yours are removed.<br /><br />What would it look like to love those who&rsquo;s sins are highlighted in our Christian culture? How do we love the sinner and hate the sin, when the sin is child abuse or molestation, or adultery, or homosexuality? And are we right to elevate those sins above the others as sins we hate?</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Essential Church</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Ministry</category><category>Church Life</category><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-10-03T20:00:24-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/e85eb4e6aca6e43ee2d8186f7306d2dc-189.php#unique-entry-id-189</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/e85eb4e6aca6e43ee2d8186f7306d2dc-189.php#unique-entry-id-189</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img class="imageStyle" alt="" style="float:left; margin: 2px 8px 2px 0" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/9780805443929_cvr_web.jpg" width="131" height="195"/><span style="font-size:15px; ">I like books-- especially free ones. And I really like author Thom Rainer, and his son Sam.<br /><br />That&rsquo;s why I was excited to see this: their book </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><em>Essential Church?</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; "> is </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><a href="http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/leadership/contests.asp" rel="external">available for free as a downloadable e-book</a></span><span style="font-size:15px; "> (PDF format). Only until Monday. </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><a href="http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/leadership/contests.asp" rel="external">Get it here</a></span><span style="font-size:15px; ">.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Book review: The Encore Effect by Mark Sanborn</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-10-01T11:02:37-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/fe16b3afd7618c38bd90be91440c8a34-186.php#unique-entry-id-186</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/fe16b3afd7618c38bd90be91440c8a34-186.php#unique-entry-id-186</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img class="imageStyle" alt="" style="float:right; margin: 2px 0 2px 8px" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/image001.jpg" width="146" height="222"/><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/waterbrook/" rel="external">Waterbrook Press</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> once again sent me a book to review: this time, it was </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Encore Effect: How to Achieve Remarkable Performance in Anything You Do</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> by Mark Sanborn. (I was actually supposed to blog this review by last week, but I hope they&rsquo;ll forgive me of it.)<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />There&rsquo;s no doubt that </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.marksanborn.com/" rel="external">Mark Sanborn</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> is an effective communicator. A motivational speaker and a Christian, Sanborn has built his business and reputation offering wholesome leadership and personal achievement advice, peppered with biblical truth and spiritual reflections. </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Encore Effect</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> follows this model exactly.<br /><br />There is a lot of good advice in this book, and a lot of good examples of how to put the advice into practice, whether personal stories from Sanborn&rsquo;s life, accounts of others historical or contemporary, or analogies. Following something of a modern-day Norman Vincent Peale approach, Sanborn offers a classic take on life: &ldquo;you can do it! Here&rsquo;s how to focus your time, energy, and attention.&rdquo;<br /><br />Therefore, someone who is doubting their capacity for living a full life might find this book a great encouragement. Others, needing a few nudges in the direction of the pursuit of excellence, may also profit from a quick read. (The book isn&rsquo;t long, and it reads fast-- I found it no trouble to put away 40-50 pages in a matter of 15 minutes or so.)<br /><br />But here&rsquo;s my concern, both for Sanborn and for Waterbrook: the book is published by a Christian publisher, and I suppose that Sanborn may present himself as a Christian author (though his website doesn&rsquo;t make any specific mention of his faith). But the book doesn&rsquo;t do great justice to the connection to biblical faith-- and in some ways, it does harm to it.<br /><br />Each chapter ends with a section called &ldquo;Intersection,&rdquo; typically containing a quote of a Bible verse and a brief reflection about how Sanborn sees that verse applying to the content of the chapter. But there are two problems with this: first of all, these verses were frequently taken out of context, and Sanborn&rsquo;s reflections further distanced the verses from their biblical meaning. It is a too-frequent commitment of a common mistake: having an idea, then finding a verse that </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>appears</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> to have some sort of connection to that idea, and claiming the verse is then a support for the idea. Sanborn&rsquo;s ideas aren&rsquo;t bad ones-- they may be a bit saccharine, but they aren&rsquo;t bad-- but his claim of their support from Scripture IS bad.<br /><br />Secondly, and on a larger level: the whole &ldquo;intersection&rdquo; idea bugs me. Too often, Christians relegate their faith to a compartmentalized, segmented aspect of their lives. The idea I get from Sanborn&rsquo;s &ldquo;intersections&rdquo; is that he views faith this way, too: live your life-- you can be remarkable!-- and every now and then, what you do and who you are will intersect with biblical Christianity. The fact that Sanborn almost never incorporates Scripture or even people or events from Christendom in the rest of the book underscores this; he quotes from secular philosophers and even leaders of other religions more than Christian folk in the main body of the chapters. I&rsquo;m making some judgements here about Sanborn&rsquo;s views on faith that may be unfair, but they are based on the portrayal he has put before me.<br /><br />The net effect is like trying to straddle the two worlds, and it doesn&rsquo;t really work: taking something popular among the unbelieving world, frosting it with a bit o&rsquo; Christianeze, then re-presenting it as something new and better. This is the model that most Christian popular music applies, and the results are little-satisfying to either side. Or perhaps it is like co-opting &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.superseventies.com/sl_freeride.html" rel="external">Free Ride</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">&rdquo; or the chorus from &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eagles/peacefuleasyfeeling.html" rel="external">Peaceful, Easy Feeling</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">&rdquo; to be used as praise songs; it just doesn&rsquo;t really fit.<br /><br />Overall, </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Encore Effect</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> isn&rsquo;t a bad book; like so many other self-help and motivational books, it offers some nuggets of truth. It would have been a much better book had Sanborn resisted the temptation to spiritualize it and present it as something that is Christian in nature.<br /><br />My rating: 6-</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Books for September</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-10-03T10:40:32-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d1682973b3331d98f40cd1a1ea93581a-185.php#unique-entry-id-185</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d1682973b3331d98f40cd1a1ea93581a-185.php#unique-entry-id-185</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul class="disc"><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>Beyond Bells and Smells </em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">by Mark Galli. I was surprised by this book, as I had thought (and hoped) it to be something that would introduce the reader to the spiritual foundations of the liturgy, explaining the elements, etc. It wasn&rsquo;t that, or anything like it, though I wasn&rsquo;t disappointed with it overall. It is more a collection of essays on the spiritual impact and importance of liturgical worship, offering something more like a devotional approach to liturgy rather than an analysis of it. (8)</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Power of Speaking God&rsquo;s Word: How to Preach Memorable Sermons </em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">by Wilbur Ellsworth (re-read). This book is very good, offering a perspective on preaching and the preparation for preaching that is different and fresh. Beginning with the premise question of &ldquo;what makes a sermon memorable?&rdquo; Ellsworth quickly moves in the direction of an increased </span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">oral</span><span style="font-size:14px; "> approach to preparing and delivering sermons, instead of the more common </span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">written/literary</span><span style="font-size:14px; "> approach. Great words on the &ldquo;what&rdquo; and &ldquo;why&rdquo; of orality, but lacking a bit on the &ldquo;how&rdquo; aspect-- a factor that I find myself both disappointed with (who doesn&rsquo;t like &ldquo;method&rdquo; and concrete advice on something like this?) and grateful for (because the approach I&rsquo;ve developed is fairly different from his, and I like the freedom to do it my way). (8+)</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>A Mile in My Shoes: Cultivating Compassion </em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">by Trevor Hudson. Hudson, it turns out, is one of the original &ldquo;Christ-Followers&rdquo;-- those who have eschewed the term &ldquo;Christian&rdquo; as being over-used and lacking the oomph they want in a label. If that suggests something about the ethos of this book, then you&rsquo;re probably right on. Hudson&rsquo;s contribution here is one part helpful reflection on the need for deeper compassion in a Christian&rsquo;s (oops-- I mean Christ-Follower&rsquo;s) life, a la Henri Nouwen; and three parts method for how to do what Hudson did. In all, sadly, the book amounts to only a little more than a planning resource for a Hudson-style spiritual exercise-- which is really a shame, since had the ratio been reversed it really could have been something. I give it slightly higher marks only because the gold to be mined within the method is good stuff, and maybe worth the work. (8)</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>Calls to Worship: a pocket resource</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> by Robert Vasholz. Following his pocket guide to Benedictions, Vasholz has produced another very helpful book for pastors and worship leaders, opening the door to fresh material that is too easily overlooked. A useful addition, this time, is to break them down into sections-- Vasholz offers the following sets of calls to worship: for special occasions including the Church calendar (42), responsive readings (36), and those to be read by Pastors only (39). A great resource. (9+)</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Encore Effect: How to Achieve Remarkable Performance in Anything You Do</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> by Mark Sanborn. </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="files/fe16b3afd7618c38bd90be91440c8a34-186.php" rel="self" title="Blog:Book review: The Encore Effect by Mark Sanborn">I&rsquo;ve already reviewed this one</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> elsewhere. (6-)</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Wildlife watch&#x2c; late September</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-09-30T15:54:12-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/6c39f8f71d3c2db7f625a6e874695630-184.php#unique-entry-id-184</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/6c39f8f71d3c2db7f625a6e874695630-184.php#unique-entry-id-184</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Then will the lame leap like a deer, and the mute tongue shout for joy. Water will gush forth in the wilderness and streams in the desert. 			~Isaiah 35:6</p></blockquote><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">Two does and two fawns grazed casually on the shrubs this afternoon, before playfully prancing across the field toward the pond. Such a beautiful sight.<br /><br />These were a different set of deer from the three does I saw earlier today as I sat in my vehicle, watching them cross behind the big oak near the playground. The woods are full of deer this year, it seems-- and big ones, too: two of them are larger than most does I&rsquo;ve ever seen.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>The urgency of the preaching moment</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Ministry</category><dc:date>2008-10-02T22:24:17-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/cd50e331dea0ca5c41fa8bd4a1994b55-183.php#unique-entry-id-183</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/cd50e331dea0ca5c41fa8bd4a1994b55-183.php#unique-entry-id-183</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In the front pews the old ladies turn up heir hearing aids, and a young lady slips her six-year-old a Life Saver and a Magic Marker. A college sophomore home for vacation who is there because he was dragged there, slumps forward with his chin in his hand. The vice-president of a bank who twice this week has considered suicide places his hymnal in the rack. A pregnant girl feels the life stir inside her. A high school teacher, who for twenty years has managed to keep his homosexuality a secret for the most part even from himself, creases his order of service down the center with his thumbnail and tucks it under his knee... The preacher pulls the little cord that turns on the lectern light and deals out his note cards like a river boat gambler. The stakes have never been higher. Two minutes from now he may have lost his listeners completely to their own thoughts, but at this moment he has them in the palm of his hand. The silence in the shabby church is deafening because everybody is listening to it... Everybody knows the kinds of things he has told them before and not told them, but who knows what this time, out of the silence, he will tell them.</p></blockquote><span style="font:16px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><br /><br />Frederick Buechner, </span><span style="font:16px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><em>Telling the Truth</em></span><span style="font:16px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">. New York: Harper and Row, 1977, pp.22-23. (Quoted in </span><span style="font:16px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><em>The Power of Speaking God&rsquo;s Word</em></span><span style="font:16px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> by Wilbur Ellsworth, Fearn, Ross-Shire, Great Britain: Christian Focus, 2000.)</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Bits &#x26; Tidbits&#x2c; 9/30/08</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Ministry</category><category>Personal</category><category>Culture</category><category>Church Life</category><dc:date>2008-09-30T09:06:29-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d6025e2738b2df857359e297d870715b-182.php#unique-entry-id-182</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d6025e2738b2df857359e297d870715b-182.php#unique-entry-id-182</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul class="disc"><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>Slate</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> has compiled </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2201121/?from=rss" rel="external">a fascinating transcript of last Friday&rsquo;s debate</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, complete with redacted fact-checks for every factual statement made (more than 200).</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Everyone seems to be blaming the Bush administration for the economic crisis, but it&rsquo;s clear that </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&partner=facebook&exprod=facebook" rel="external">it began during the Clinton administration</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> and </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs" rel="external">was perpetuated by Democrats in Congress</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">. Also, get </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://culture11.com/node/32322?from=feature" rel="external">a better grasp on what is going on</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">. (HT: </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://ashevillesloan.blogspot.com/2008/09/something-to-make-you-stop-and-think.html" rel="external">Leslie</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">,  </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?sid=392d039b4132191cfeadae4b6857bfc3&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.new.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fref%3Dsearch%26init%3Dq%26q%3DMark%2BHorne%26sid%3D392d039b4132191cfeadae4b6857bfc3&id=721365271&hiq=mark%2Chorne" rel="external">Mark</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> & </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://helpmyunbelief.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/crazy-economic-times/" rel="external">Adam</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">)</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">A fascinating look at the practice of rebaptism-- </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/rebaptism-what-is-it" rel="external">part 1</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> and </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/rebaptism-how-did-we-get-here" rel="external">part 2</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.bnet.com/2403-13068_23-212795.html" rel="external">What is business casual?</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> A great line: use the detergent test. (HT: </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://thedailysaint.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/09/dress-for-success-the-details-still-matter.html" rel="external">Daily Saint</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">)</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">How does </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://lingamish.com/2008/08/19/bon-jovi-gets-it-and-we-dont/" rel="external">Bon Jovi understand worship in a way that most churches don&rsquo;t</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">? Very good points here.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDkhGPo5U1Q" rel="external">Watch the last three minutes of this video</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> for a real laugh. I laughed harder at the end than I have in a </span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">long</span><span style="font-size:14px; "> time (and if you know me, that&rsquo;s really saying something). Boom Chakka-Lakka.</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Would David Hasselhoff win America&#x27;s Got Talent?</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-10-01T13:18:05-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/9b4078753f7c3a42464746cf390886cd-181.php#unique-entry-id-181</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/9b4078753f7c3a42464746cf390886cd-181.php#unique-entry-id-181</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/PJQVlVHsFF8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/PJQVlVHsFF8&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><br />I don&rsquo;t think so.<br /><br />So why is he a judge?<br /><br />(HT: </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><a href="http://ashevillesloan.blogspot.com/2008/09/lls-mit-david-hasselhoff.html" rel="self">Leslie</a></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">)</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Pass the salt</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-09-29T11:51:51-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/5f2cc56cebe913ee4825b584b99ed03d-180.php#unique-entry-id-180</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/5f2cc56cebe913ee4825b584b99ed03d-180.php#unique-entry-id-180</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">Another core idea in Logic-- in general, as well as in logic for theological discussion-- is </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>Consistency</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">.<br /><br />The fundamental definition of consistency is this: two or more ideas may be true at the same time, in the same context. If two statements can both be said to be true at the same time and in the same context, they are said to be consistent.<br /><br />All of us are inconsistent. One of my philosophy professors pointed this out in a profound-- and humorous-- manner: &ldquo;everyone is inconsistent; even a determinist will ask you to pass the salt!&rdquo;<br /><br />But our inconsistency matters the most when we attempt discourse and discussion-- particularly when there is disagreement involved. This is because our inconsistencies undermine our more salient points by causing others to question, second-guess, or even outright doubt all of our points.<br /><br />A couple of recent political events demonstrate inconsistency well. For one, John McCain stood up on Monday, September 15, and declared that our economic system is &ldquo;fundamentally sound&rdquo; while addressing the concerns about the Lehman and AIG failures. (He has since backpedaled on that statement, which further underscores the inconsistency.) Meanwhile, Senator Obama (and the rest of the Democrats in congress) have strongly supported a bailout plan approaching $700 billion-- money which will effectively buy off the financial problems of the wealthiest of Americans-- while simultaneously demanding an increase in taxes for the wealthiest Americans. (I guess that is their plan to pay for the bailout.)<br /><br />Similarly, the entire financial crisis is being blamed largely on the economic policies of President Bush, while President Clinton&rsquo;s presidency and economic accomplishments have been lauded and praised. But the crisis we are facing now is the fallout of </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&partner=facebook&exprod=facebook" rel="self">poor policies of a decade ago</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, just as a significant amount of the economic prosperity of the Clinton presidency was the fruit of the presidencies that preceded him. It turns out that what we do today actually has impact on tomorrow-- go figure.<br /><br />A good example from the theological discussion world covers the debates of the past decade or so in the PCA. Back in 2002, the debate du jour was over &ldquo;good-faith subscription&rdquo; vs. &ldquo;strict subscription.&rdquo; A number of guys opposed the idea of good-faith subscription because, some of them said, it would open the door for too many differing positions on various theological issues. Fast-forward to 2006, and the new debate has turned to a theological view called the &ldquo;Federal Vision&rdquo; position-- which was, and is, a variation on the historic position on the prominence of individual salvation. Ironically, many of those who came under fire during the Federal Vision debates, and who took cover under the &ldquo;good-faith subscription&rdquo; blanket, were some of the same guys who opposed the passage of the good-faith subscription amendment. In short, many of the same men who would end up benefiting the most from the good-faith subscription vote were those who spoke most vehemently against it.<br /><br />The difficulty about consistency is that it can&rsquo;t easily be corrected or improved. Unlike bad argument styles, for example, you cannot simply evaluate arguments by asking a set of questions that will reveal the problems of consistency. To recognize inconsistency in your own arguments, you must begin to learn how to see how ideas connect. You must also develop a memory of what you have said and done, and recognize how those things affect the next thing.<br /><br />Unlike fallacies, however, defeating inconsistencies doesn&rsquo;t really require strategies or counter-examples. It simply needs to be pointed out. Once you&rsquo;ve shown someone to be inconsistent, they will often make things worse by disclaiming, excusing, or digging deeper. </span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Wildlife watch&#x2c; mid-September</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-09-23T22:20:28-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/f1e2d103db5a7cd29dc0890dc28e049e-179.php#unique-entry-id-179</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/f1e2d103db5a7cd29dc0890dc28e049e-179.php#unique-entry-id-179</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">A couple of crows have been at it all day today, cawing and flitting up and down from the trees just outside my window. They surprised me several times with their cawing, and one time the flutter of wings so close to the window startled me.<br /><br />Late in the afternoon, a pair of deer came out for a snack-- a doe and fawn, with spots still clearly showing on the young one. They munched for a bit, and I noticed them in time to watch for a few minutes, wondering to myself about how good twigs and leaves taste to a deer.<br /><br />As they made their way around the bend, mother doe was startled by the crows, too-- enough to jump. Young fawn remained careless, not yet accustomed to the need to be wary. Crows are harmless to deer, though, and they continued on their way for a while before finding a convenient hole back into the brush.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Why stereotypes are treacherous&#x2c; and other logical puzzles</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-09-22T09:34:48-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/dc8bd815418931ae1db87e0e228bf445-178.php#unique-entry-id-178</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/dc8bd815418931ae1db87e0e228bf445-178.php#unique-entry-id-178</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">Continuing my Logic for Theological Discussion thread, here are a couple of fallacies that are very common.<br /><br />I had lunch with a pastor-friend recently, and he told me of a man in his congregation who has begun to doubt. Specifically, these doubts have focused on the man&rsquo;s belief in a literal Hell-- the man doesn&rsquo;t believe that there is literally a place that is Hell as the Scriptures describe.<br /><br />As a consequence of this, the guy thinks he must abandon the rest of his beliefs in biblical truth as well-- in fact, he is beginning to wonder whether this doubt should compel him to abandon his faith altogether. His rationale is that, because he has serious doubts and even disbelief about one teaching of the Bible, he must abandon his belief in all of the teachings of the Bible.<br /><br />This man is falling into the trap of the Fallacy of Composition. This fallacy follows a basic and common pattern: what is true of the parts that compose a thing must also be true of the whole thing. The tricky part of this fallacy is that the line of thinking is sometimes true-- but we are inclined to believe that it is true all of the time, because it is true some of the time (which is, itself, a Fallacy of Composition).<br /><br />So, we reason: every blade of grass in my yard is green (true), therefore my lawn is green (also true). If that is true, then it must also be the case that: taking one pill from the bottle of prescription drugs is not poisonous, therefore, taking all of the pills at the same time would also not be poisonous. Or, every atom that makes up my body is invisible to the naked eye, therefore my body must be invisible to the naked eye.<br /><br />As you can see from these examples, you cannot rely simply on the pattern of thought processes in the argument to determine whether an argument is sound or not. Therefore, this young man&rsquo;s fallacy goes like this: I doubt one particular teaching of the Bible, therefore I must doubt all of the teachings of the Bible.<br /><br />A closely related fallacy to Composition is the Fallacy of Division. It is the converse of the Fallacy of Composition, and follows this line of thought: what is true of the whole of a thing is also true of the parts of that thing.<br /><br />Once again, because it is sometimes true, we often assume it to be always true. But that is not the case. Consider: An airplane can fly through the air for miles and miles; therefore, this hunk of metal I took off of an airplane can fly through the air for miles and miles. Or, I am able to see my desk without help from magnification, so I ought to be able to see the atoms that compose my desk without magnification.<br /><br />Clearly, as you see, it doesn&rsquo;t always hold up. Here&rsquo;s what is interesting: these fallacies are based on the same kinds of conclusions, or inferences, as stereotypes. In other words, based on what we believe to be true of a whole group, we infer an opinion about the members of that group (Division); OR, based on our observations of members of a group, we infer a general principle about that group (Composition). Sometimes these inferences are true and sound, while at other times they are not. This is what makes stereotypes so dangerous.<br /><br />So we might reason thusly: Everyone I know who has installed Microsoft Vista thinks it is awful; therefore, Vista must be a bomb. (Fallacy of Composition or not? It depends on how you measure it. On the one hand, </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>several hundred million</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> copies of Vista have sold, making it an inherent financial success. On the other hand, as of August, Windows XP -- the six year old predecessor to Vista-- was still outselling Vista, and the numbers of people who have switched to the Apple Mac platform have increased substantially.)<br /><br />Or this: Presbyterian churches are stuffy and dull; so this Sunday&rsquo;s worship at Hickory Withe Presbyterian Church will probably be stuffy and dull, too. (Fallacy of Division? I hope not. Although it is true that some Presbyterian churches-- and some other churches, as well-- are stuffy and dull, this may be an unfair stereotype. It also may be an inference made out of ignorance: someone who is uninterested in worshiping God might find ANY church worship service dull, and even stuffy.)<br /><br />So what do we do about the fallacies of Composition and Division? It all comes down to a simple question:<br /><br /></span><p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:14px; ">What is the justification for making that inference?<br /></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />In other words, why do I feel safe in drawing the conclusion I have? What are the unstated factors in the argument? Is there a point of data-- or more than one-- that connects the part and the whole? If so, does that data hold up as good reason to draw the inference I have?<br /><br />In the Microsoft example, there are points of data that might support the conclusion, but you still might question whether the starting point is the best one. <br /><br />With the young man who doubts the Bible, the connecting points that are unstated are likely based on someone teaching the guy that he had to believe the whole Bible to be a Christian. While the Bible is the Word of God, and we cannot know the truth about salvation apart from it, attaching a required belief onto the saving grace of the gospel makes it into works salvation. While I want every believer-- and every unbeliever too-- to hear and receive Scripture as God&rsquo;s Word, I cannot deny others their doubts. In short, one can be a Christian and not believe that everything written in Scripture is true.<br /><br /></span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Use of the Old Testament</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Bible</category><dc:date>2008-09-23T15:57:15-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8ed92a74d593dc7f795734b3747a3df4-177.php#unique-entry-id-177</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8ed92a74d593dc7f795734b3747a3df4-177.php#unique-entry-id-177</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">How do the New Testament writers make use of the Old Testament? In what ways did the Old Testament writers understand the inspiration of their writings?<br /><br />Your answer to these questions shapes your view on Scripture, and these issues are the focus of a new book coming out this fall, called </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>Three Views on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">. It looks like it will be interesting, and it is certainly the case that some of these matters are hot topics currently.<br /><br />If you&rsquo;re interested in knowing where you fit in the three views, here&rsquo;s a quick quiz that will give you a general sense. Some of these were questions I had never considered before, and may be new concepts to you, also-- but even if you feel a little lost or confused by these, they&rsquo;re useful for insight into how complicated this issue is.<br /><br /></span><p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:14px; "> <tr> <td align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff" style="border-top: 1px solid #000 !important; padding: 4px !important; background: #fff !important; text-align: right !important"> <font face="Arial" size="1" color="#000000" style="font-size: 10px !important; color: #000 !important"> <a href="http://www.quibblo.com/"><u><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#000000" style="font-size: 10px !important; color: #000 !important; text-decoration: underline !important">Fun quizzes</font></u></a>, <a href="http://www.quibblo.com/myspace-quizzes-surveys"><u><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#000000" style="font-size: 10px !important; color: #000 !important; text-decoration: underline !important">surveys</font></u></a> &amp; <a href="http://www.quibblo.com/blog-quizzes-surveys"><u><font face="Arial" size="1" color="#000000" style="font-size: 10px !important; color: #000 !important; text-decoration: underline !important">blog quizzes</font></u></a> by <img src="http://static.quibblo.com/static/images/badge/logo.gif" align="middle" border="0" alt="Quibblo" style="vertical-align: middle !important; margin-left: 5px !important; border: none !important"/> </font> </td> </tr> </table><br /><object width="300" height="400" wmode="transparent" data="http://apps.quibblo.com/static/flash/qwidget/qwidget.swf?s=&amp;theme=quibblo&amp;quiz=2Gfjf97" allownetworking="all" allowscriptaccess="never" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> <param name="movie" value="http://apps.quibblo.com/static/flash/qwidget/qwidget.swf?s=&amp;theme=quibblo&amp;quiz=2Gfjf97"> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="never"> <param name="allownetworking" value="all"> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"> <param name="bgcolor" value="ffffff"> </object></div><img style="visibility:hidden;width:0px;height:0px;" border=0 width=0 height=0 src="http://counters.gigya.com/wildfire/IMP/CXNID=2000002.0NXC/bT*xJmx*PTEyMjE5MTM1MzYxNTEmcHQ9MTIyMTkxMzk*NDYyOCZwPTg3MzMxJmQ9MkdmamY5NyUyQmJhZGdlJm49Jmc9MiZ*PSZvPWRhNzJhYTVlMDM1YjRkMmM4M2EzMDU*ZDRkNWZmMzdk.gif" /><br /></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />(HT: </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://zondervan.typepad.com/koinonia/2008/09/test-your-view.html" rel="external">Koinonia</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">)</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Wildlife Watch&#x2c; early September</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-09-15T12:15:05-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/ffd26fbe9676fc8ec9bf0838e89043f0-176.php#unique-entry-id-176</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/ffd26fbe9676fc8ec9bf0838e89043f0-176.php#unique-entry-id-176</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font:16px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">Well, the does are back to making frequent appearances. Sunday morning I saw the &ldquo;pair&rdquo; that regularly moved together last fall-- I think a mother/daughter couple. Only this time, they were accompanied by two fawns, spots still showing. They moved down the left side of the field, then stepped into the woods about 50 yards from my window. I&rsquo;ve seen them several times, and the other group as well.<br /><br />I&rsquo;ve also seen bucks a couple of times. One was just a glimpse of the big guy I first saw last fall; he stood at the edge of the far side of the field for a moment, then turned quickly back into the woods. The other was a younger (looking), smaller buck who crossed the field on his way to the pond. Thirsty in the late-summer heat, I suppose.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Book Review: A Handful of Pebbles</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-09-17T10:10:17-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/9a0c925cd4f28084aff69a9700e6d672-175.php#unique-entry-id-175</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/9a0c925cd4f28084aff69a9700e6d672-175.php#unique-entry-id-175</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:15px; ">Banner of Truth asked me to write a more detailed review of this book, so I&rsquo;m posting it here.<br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; "><br />Publisher:			Banner of Truth Trust<br />Publication Date:		2008<br />Rating (1-10 scale):	7+<br /><br />	Anytime I hear the term "liberal" these days, I'm not sure what to think. On the one hand, the word can mean a number of things that are threatening to orthodoxy, or it can mean some things that are actually very good. On the other hand, I wonder if the term has served its purpose, and no longer is the broad-sweeping inclusive category that it once was. So when I received my copy of A Handful of Pebbles and saw that it was subtitled, "theological liberalism and the church," I wondered which of these it would be.<br /><br />	Fortunately, author Peter Barnes is quick to define what he means by liberalism, even granting that it can sometimes have good associations-- yet qualifying how the liberalism he intends is that which is a threat and challenge to biblical orthodoxy. What follows is Barnes's summary of what liberalism is, how it came to find its way into the church, and how an orthodox Christian ought to respond.<br /><br />	This small book offers a brief history of the rise of liberalism in the church, and it does a fair job of that. The first half could be an outline to a historical theology class, if that class focused exclusively on the rise of heresy and philosophical departure from orthodoxy. I appreciated some of the discussion about key doctrines, especially, and thought the content in the couple of chapters given to the problem of "what do we do about it?" were helpful, at least in a limited way, to give the reader some idea about why theological liberalism is at odds with orthodox Christian beliefs. <br /><br />	However, at the end I was left with a nagging question about who the intended audience for the book is. If it is for pastors or professors, it is far too thin on history and foundations to be of great use; It clearly is not intended as an academic reference. If, on the other hand, it is intended as an apologetic for liberal thinkers, it is likely too thin on refutation and discussion of problems; only the most willing and self-skeptical liberal would be convinced by this little tome. <br /><br />	The best audience I can think of for this book is the average church member in an evangelical church, who is himself/herself already committed to orthodoxy; for this person, it would be a good introduction to the indicators of liberal theology and their problems. I could see it being especially useful to put in the hands of a "liberal church refugee," stepping into an orthodox church after years of having the edge taken off of his or her beliefs. Or perhaps it might be a good tool for church officers, who may at times encounter mild or vague questions along the lines of what this book answers.<br /><br />	At times the tone of the book is a bit too defensive or even aggressive. While this may be justifiable given the subject matter, it undermines the brief urging at one point of approaching those in error with love and forbearance.  I would have liked a bit more gracious attitude in a book like this.<br /><br />	Overall, I appreciated A Handful of Pebbles, even if I felt it was appropriate for only a limited audience. </span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Bad argument styles #3: you can&#x27;t&#x2c; but we can</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-09-18T08:17:18-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8dbfe6c80738f7511b7c47c7d17b962e-174.php#unique-entry-id-174</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8dbfe6c80738f7511b7c47c7d17b962e-174.php#unique-entry-id-174</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:15px; ">When I was in college, I took a public speaking class (didn&rsquo;t everyone?), and my last assignment was to present a persuasive speech. The topic had to be approved by the professor, and I wrote a proposal to deliver a speech on the topic, &ldquo;Why we can trust the Bible.&rdquo;<br /><br />My professor denied my topic, because, as he said, in order to speak on that topic I would have to appeal to the authority of the Bible, and he wouldn&rsquo;t allow that. Imagine my surprise when one of the first speeches given by one of my classmates was on the topic, &ldquo;The Bible is just a bunch of myths and legends.&rdquo;<br /><br />(What made it worse was that the guy basically appealed to the fact that the contents of the Bible has been referred to as, &ldquo;the greatest story ever told,&rdquo; and we all know that a </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><em>story</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; "> is fiction. Yep, that was the gist of his argument-- persuasive, right? See my forthcoming post on the fallacy of equivocation...)<br /><br />This is a classic example of what I call the &ldquo;you can&rsquo;t, but we can&rdquo; argument style. The essence of it is this: one party declares a certain topic, appeal, source of authority, term or phrase, or whatever, to be off-limits. The other side agrees. Then the first side proceeds to appeal to that topic, phrase, etc.; but when the other side brings it up, they are reprimanded for speaking on an off-limits topic.<br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; "><br />This has plagued the political campaigns this year. Senator Clinton committed it when she castigated others for holding her gender against her, only to turn around and declare that a vote for her is a step of progress for women everywhere. Senator Obama has done something similar with regard to race (and his &ldquo;youthfulness&rdquo; as well). Most recently, the McCain/Palin campaign has employed it, first saying that Governor Palin&rsquo;s pregnant daughter should be &ldquo;out of bounds&rdquo; for political discussion, then parlaying it into a mark in her favor as a Pro-Life candidate.<br /><br />But it happens in the church, too-- and that&rsquo;s where I&rsquo;m even more concerned about it. A good example is this excerpt from one of my favorite books on the sacrament of Baptism, </span><span style="font-size:15px; "><em>William the Baptist</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; "> by James M. Chaney. This is a dialogue between William, a devoted Baptist, and his wife&rsquo;s Presbyterian pastor, on whether immersion is a biblical mode of administering the sacrament (from pp.30-32):<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">William:</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> ...I cannot express my astonishment to learn that you regard immersion as an </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>unscriptural</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> mode of baptism. You will find but few who will agree with you in that extreme view.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">Pastor:</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">  Immersionists are zealous in their labors to make such an impression, but it is very erroneous. The ministers of our Church, as a body, agree with me. A few, regarding it as a mere external, look upon it with such supreme indifference that they can scarcely be said to have an opinion on it; and such may sometimes make concessions which our opposers are very quick to catch up and use to their own advantage. I have know a few who would push this question of indifference to such an extreme that, while unhesitatingly declaring immersion unscriptural as a mode of baptism, would yet, on request, administer the rite in that way. The Presbytery of Lafayette, in answer to a memorial, declared by a unanimous vote that, &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>it is inexpedient and </em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">IMPROPER</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em> for a Presbyterian minister  to administer the rite of baptism by immersion.&rdquo;<br /></em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">William:</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> Such facts are new to me. But are you not mistaken as to the number of those who make such concessions? I have heard many sermons on the subject by immersionists, and by their quotations and statements they succeeded in making the impression on me that </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>all</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> P&aelig;do-bapists agree in concessions that would seem to render the further discussion of the question unnecessary.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">Pastor:</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">  Such concessions form the burden of their books and sermons on the subject. Some years ago I put myself to some trouble to hear a Baptist minister, who proposed to discuss the subject purely from a Bible standpoint. I was anxious to know what a man could say in favor of immersion, in three sermons an hour each, who would confine himself to the Bible, and let lexicons and P&aelig;do-baptist concessions alone.<br />A worthy Baptist minister introduced the services by an earnest prayer, the burden of which was praise to God for His Word, for the clearness of its revelations, and its sufficiency in all things. I was delighted with the prayer: I regarded it as a prelude to a Bible discussion, and thought that a desire, long entertained, to hear such a discussion, was about to be gratified.<br />	A gospel song was sung, and the minister, with only the open Bible before him, began his task. For about fifteen minutes I was charmed with an eloquent eulogy on the Bible. It was in the spirit of the prayer that preceded it. The massive Book, with its pages opened, was held up to our gaze; and &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>here,&rdquo;</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> said the speaker, &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>not in Creeds and Confessions of Faith, but here, in the Word of God, are we to look and find the mind of the Lord. </em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">TO THE LAW</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em> and the </em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">TESTIMONY</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em> if they speak not according to this word, </em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM.&rdquo;<br />	What more could I desire? A Bible discussion of baptism! what I had so longed to hear.<br />	As the sound of the speaker&rsquo;s voice (in giving the quotation) was dying away, in a most reverent manner he gently closed the sacred volume, and with as much reverence as the case would admit of, he slowly pushed the source of light to his extreme left, taking one step to enable him to get it sufficiently far. The movement was inexplicable. But, in less time than it requires to tell you, the speaker was almost hidden behind books, large and small, which he piled before him, and on his right and left.<br />	And now the Bible discussion!! For </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>two hours </em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">we were treated to a learned dissertation-- by one who knew nothing of the Greek language-- on the meaning of &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>baptidzo.&rdquo;</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> Greek lexicons and P&aelig;do-baptist commentators and writers were the sole witnesses. The </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>Bible</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> was </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>wholly</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> ignored. It was not mentioned once. No text was quoted from it!!<br />	If it had been but a human production, I could but pity it on account of such treatment. Sacred volume, lifted so high to fall so low!<br />	My disappointment was great, but I went to hear the second and third discourses, &ldquo;</span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>et ab uno, disce omnes.&rdquo;</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> The discussion of the subject, in all, occupied more than five hours, and only at the close, and then only for about fifteen minutes, did the Bible receive any notice, and then all that was done was to quote a few favorite passages, taking it for granted that they were conclusive in favor of immersion, but making no attempt at proof.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">William: </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">In all the books I have read on the subject, and in all the discussions to which I have listened, I have noticed that such was their method, and I think it proper. It served to establish me in my views. with such concessions, and the plain teachings of the Bible, I have come to regard the question as removed from any debatable ground, and I cannot express to you my astonishment that you would intimate that a P&aelig;do-baptist would undertake to uphold his views from the Bible alone! Am I correct in drawing the inference that any one would undertake such a task?<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">Pastor: </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"> Do you think any other method legitimate and satisfactory?<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;font-weight:bold; ">William:  </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">I certainly thing such a method </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>best</em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">; but I see no objection to other aids, especially to the </span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;"><em>ad hominem </em></span><span style="font-size:15px; color:#6F7B8F;">arguments to which you have referred.</span><span style="font-size:15px; "><br /><br />The gist: the Baptist pastor asserts &ldquo;no creeds or confessions of faith&rdquo; are admissible, but &ldquo;the Word of God alone&rdquo;-- in other words, &ldquo;you can&rsquo;t use your creeds or confessions&rdquo; (which is convenient, since the Baptist church is ostensibly a &ldquo;non-creedal&rdquo; body). Yet, out come the commentators and Baptist resources-- perhaps what we might construe as the confessions of faith for a group that eschews confessions of faith.<br /><br />So, here are some questions to ask to avoid this argument style:<br /></span><ul class="circle"><li><span style="font-size:15px; ">What are the topics, terms, phrases, ideas, appeals to authority, etc., that I consider &ldquo;off-limits?&rdquo; Why do I regard them as such?</span></li></ul><ul class="circle"><li><span style="font-size:15px; ">Is my desire for such a limitation an emotional response, or do I have reasons for it? What are the reasons? </span></li></ul><ul class="circle"><li><span style="font-size:15px; ">Is my perspective on these topics, etc., fair and just? Do I consider them &ldquo;off-limits&rdquo; because I am trying to cripple my discussion partner? If I allowed them into the discussion, would I simply have more work and research to do, or would I be admitting a harmful element into the debate?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:15px; ">Am I willing to subject myself to the same (or similar) limitations? Have I represented my position and/or argument as one that IS subject to the same limitations, but have failed to fulfill that?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:15px; ">Is the limitation I am proposing a matter of vital importance, or simply a difference of opinion? Would my discussion partner categorize it in the same way? (And what is suggested by an answer of &ldquo;no&rdquo; to that last question?)</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Good friends</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-09-12T13:00:50-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/71da9dee8700e4b948d6cb1ab22d5e58-173.php#unique-entry-id-173</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/71da9dee8700e4b948d6cb1ab22d5e58-173.php#unique-entry-id-173</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img class="imageStyle" alt="" style="float:left; margin: 2px 8px 2px 0" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/IMG_0130.jpg" width="192" height="144"/><span style="font-size:14px; ">In a (very) brief trip to St. Louis, I had the pleasure of staying with my friends </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://seconddrafts.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Craig</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> and </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://halfpinthouse.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Megan</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, and their lovely girls. We met these sweet people as they were moving to St. Louis to begin seminary a couple of years behind us, and they have become dear friends.<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />I&rsquo;ve stayed with them before, and each time has been similar: I come in late, displace someone from their bed, visit briefly with them in the morning, and leave. I&rsquo;m sure their girls (who are growing up so fast!) think I&rsquo;m a little crazy (maybe I&rsquo;m the </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_French" rel="external">Mr. Edwards </a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">of this half-pint house) but they are gracious and loving, never complaining about the fact that I took one of their beds.<br /><br /></span><img class="imageStyle" alt="" style="float:right; margin: 2px 0 2px 8px" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/IMG_0132.jpg" width="180" height="240"/><span style="font-size:14px; ">My friends have moved into a new house, and it is great!</span> <span style="font-size:14px; ">They have a lot of good space, and they&rsquo;ve already done </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://halfpinthouse.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/from-aaaaaa-to-ahhhhhh/" rel="external">some pretty fantastic work</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> to make it theirs. They have a good vision for the place too, so I&rsquo;m sure it will be a great home for them for years to come. (Megan, I still think </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://halfpinthouse.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/help-me-decorate-my-living-room-por-favor/" rel="external">the pinstripes will do best</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">. Maybe a medium-dark blue with white pinstripes?)<br /><br />I&rsquo;m so grateful for you, my friends. Thanks for being so inviting-- </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major-General's_Song" rel="external">you are the very model of a house of hospitality</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">.</span><br /><br /><p style="text-align:center;"><br /><img class="imageStyle" alt="IMG_0131" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/IMG_0131.jpg" width="300" height="400"/></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>More on the Lord&#x27;s Supper</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Church Life</category><category>Ministry</category><dc:date>2008-09-10T15:20:38-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/bdd5b8c2a12260120550292cd46d333d-172.php#unique-entry-id-172</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/bdd5b8c2a12260120550292cd46d333d-172.php#unique-entry-id-172</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">Following up (again) on my recently completed </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="../../resources/media/files/tag-the-lord0027s-supper.php" rel="self" title="Media:Tag: The Lord&#39;s Supper">series on the Lord&rsquo;s Supper</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, I thought this brief (< 1 min.) video from Tim Keller might be another helpful summary of what happens in the sacrament of Communion.<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font:10px &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;, LucidaGrande, Verdana, sans-serif; "><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_9LNoreVw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_9LNoreVw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Identity in Christ</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Church Life</category><category>Ministry</category><dc:date>2008-09-26T10:38:43-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/434d24cf5bbd972c0292e4e5cebb8ee6-171.php#unique-entry-id-171</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/434d24cf5bbd972c0292e4e5cebb8ee6-171.php#unique-entry-id-171</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">I have believed for a long time that the essence of my ministry-- regardless of where it is or to whom-- is to teach people of the truth of the Gospel, our need for it, and its transforming power to give us new identities in Christ. My primary goal at Hickory Withe Presbyterian Church has been, and is, to focus on that.<br /><br />Here is PCA pastor Tim Keller talking about that transformed identity, in a better way than I am able to explain it:<br /></span><p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font:10px &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;, LucidaGrande, Verdana, sans-serif; "><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Tn2jzrhAGw4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Tn2jzrhAGw4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Learning the words</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Church Life</category><dc:date>2008-09-19T17:04:28-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/b32621e70255cdf8a9309b51ec66d3f8-170.php#unique-entry-id-170</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/b32621e70255cdf8a9309b51ec66d3f8-170.php#unique-entry-id-170</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">When I was in college, I took modern Hebrew as my foreign language. I had it in my head that this would give me a head-start on seminary (and it did, to a degree).<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />As a result, I learned a lot about the Israeli and Hebrew culture. For one thing, my university required that we take a history class that was related to one of our disciplines-- and I chose a &ldquo;History of Judaism&rdquo; class that was taught by one of the local rabbis. For another, my Hebrew teacher was an Israeli herself-- she married an English Literature professor when he was doing a sabbatical in Jerusalem-- and she had a good sense that the connection between learning a language and learning a culture was essential.<br /><br />One of the key &ldquo;meta-lessons&rdquo; I learned from this (apart from the interesting stuff about the culture of the Hebrew-speaking people) was how important it is to learn the &ldquo;language&rdquo; of a culture. By this, I mean the words, phrases, and concepts that have particular and special meaning to that culture.<br /><br />This is as true in the church as it is anywhere. The church is a culture (and sometimes it degrades into a sub-culture; more on this another time), and the people of that culture have their own language. Sometimes this is almost comical, but in the ways that it is serious and important, we must learn the language of that culture.<br /><br />I&rsquo;m thinking about terms and phrases like these:<br /></span><ul class="disc"><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Justification</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Salvation by grace alone</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Atonement</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Propitiation</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">The inerrancy of Scripture</span></li></ul><span style="font-size:14px; ">Are these familiar to you? Can you offer </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>something</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> in the way of a basic definition of these? <br /><br />Here&rsquo;s the thing: these are words taken straight out of the Bible. They aren&rsquo;t just lingo for stuffy theology professors, but are supposed to be the stock-in-trade of the Christian. There are others, too-- and you ought to learn them.<br /><br />No one takes up a hobby without expecting to learn some new terminology. If you know what a Birdie is to a golfer, if you can describe a car&rsquo;s differential, or if you understand what RAM does in a computer, then you bothered to learn terms that were, previously, esoteric and irrelevant to your life. Why would you treat your </span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">faith</span><span style="font-size:14px; ">-- which is what grants you eternal life and security-- with less appreciation for the terms and language that accompanies it?<br /><br />Along those lines, Michael Horton and R.C. Sproul discuss this idea briefly in part of their conversation from a recent episode of the </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>White Horse Inn</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, a (normally) audio resource that is available in podcast form. Here is the interview:<br /></span><p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:14px; "><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZMOJGmMGj2E&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZMOJGmMGj2E&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Application summary from the Lord&#x27;s Supper series</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Ministry</category><category>Church Life</category><dc:date>2008-09-08T14:08:39-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d9a845b86023c58894b2765b594810c6-169.php#unique-entry-id-169</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d9a845b86023c58894b2765b594810c6-169.php#unique-entry-id-169</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">As I wrapped up </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="../../resources/media/files/tag-the-lord0027s-supper.php" rel="self" title="Media:Tag: The Lord&#39;s Supper">a brief sermon series on The Lord&rsquo;s Supper</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> yesterday, I thought it may be helpful to summarize the applications, or &ldquo;answers&rdquo; to the questions I posed about the sacrament (which were, &ldquo;what is it?&rdquo; &ldquo;when is it?&rdquo; and &ldquo;how is it?&rdquo;):<br /></span><ul class="disc"><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">The sacrament of the Lord&rsquo;s Supper is a covenantal meal, which means it is a family meal-- thus, it&rsquo;s not primarily an individual thing, but much more of a group thing, and in a mysterious spiritual way, it is a time of true, living fellowship with God Himself, through which He nourishes our souls with grace.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">The sacrament is something that we should be devoted to doing: devoted to doing it in the context of worship, accompanied by Word and prayer, because these are the spiritual food that God has given us for nourishment; and devoted to doing it often-- as often as we are able-- because we long to be fed and nourished all the more on the grace of God.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">The sacrament is something for believers gathered together, not for unbelievers: if we know salvation through Christ alone, we are welcomed through the Gate to take part in this spiritual feast; but if we approach it wrongly-- in an unbelieving way, whether because we misunderstand what the sacrament is for, or because we presume on it meaning that it doesn&rsquo;t have-- then we are warned of the consequences of judgement being increased on us.</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>On counseling and medication</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Ministry</category><category>Church Life</category><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-09-11T11:18:36-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/04ca51cde94b23e18f87d63d1546327c-168.php#unique-entry-id-168</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/04ca51cde94b23e18f87d63d1546327c-168.php#unique-entry-id-168</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">An interesting discussion on counseling and medication </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.boundlessline.org/2008/08/biblical-counse.html" rel="external">over at another blog</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> raised a good point that I&rsquo;ve often found is a stumbling block to Christians. David Powlison, quoting the Director of the National Institute on Mental Health, said:<br /></span><blockquote><p>Psychiatric medications can sometimes take the edge off symptoms, but they can't give people what they really need. People need meaning and relationships. Psychiatry can't give that. Medication can't give that.</p></blockquote><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />This is something that is apparently difficult to understand for those who have not had immediate contact with the effects of this kind of medication (known as &ldquo;psychotropic&rdquo; medication).<br /><br />I once had a student whose comment revealed that even those who HAVE had contact sometimes misunderstand. She said in an off-hand manner, &ldquo;I&rsquo;ve taken anti-depressants. They make you happy!&rdquo;<br /><br />The truth is, they don&rsquo;t. They might help you to be normal (in a chemical sense), but they don&rsquo;t make you &ldquo;happy.&rdquo; My concern deepened as I counseled this student about this, because she had faced mild-to-moderate depression for so long that she had come to assume that her </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>depressed</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> state was &ldquo;normal&rdquo;-- thus, having that edge of depression taken off was &ldquo;happy&rdquo; feeling to her.<br /><br />Here&rsquo;s my best analogy of what psychotropic drugs offer: Suppose you love running, and have your heart dead-set on running a marathon in a year. In preparation for a training regimen, you visit your doctor, who informs you that the slight pain in your knee is actually a problem that needs to be addressed surgically; in short, if you don&rsquo;t have your knee scoped, you won&rsquo;t be able to train for the marathon, let alone complete it.<br /><br />Here&rsquo;s the analogy: if you have your knee scoped, is that going to make you ready for the marathon? No. You&rsquo;ll still have a lot of work to do to condition your body (and your mind) for running the marathon. But if you don&rsquo;t have your knee scoped, you are guaranteed that you won&rsquo;t be able to run the marathon.<br /><br />So it is with psychotropic medication: they won&rsquo;t overcome your depression for you, but they might address the physical/physiological obstacles that would keep you from being able to do the work of overcoming depression. (Likewise with anxiety and other clinical mental health issues.)</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Blogs I&#x27;m reading</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-09-06T09:13:59-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/66c64d376ebf2fa7c57d7a62bee84a41-167.php#unique-entry-id-167</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/66c64d376ebf2fa7c57d7a62bee84a41-167.php#unique-entry-id-167</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">A friend of mine asked me earlier in the week what blogs I&rsquo;m reading these days; I told him I&rsquo;d look at my list and post some recommendations here. So, here are some of the blogs I read and recommend:<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">Friends</span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><ol class="arabic-numbers"><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://seconddrafts.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Craig Dunham</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://halfpinthouse.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Megan Dunham</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.barlowfarms.com/" rel="external">Jon Barlow</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.annbarlow.com/" rel="external">Ann Barlow</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://helpmyunbelief.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Adam Tisdale</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://knowtea.com/" rel="external">John Allen Bankson</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://paulbankson.com/" rel="external">Paul Bankson</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://dogmadoxa.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Dane Ortlund</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://russellsmusings.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Russell Smith</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://wwwrambleon.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Jeremy Jones</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://toadsdrinkcoffee.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Margie Haack</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://transpacificism.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Travis Scott</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://sleeplessinjacksonville.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Buffy Smith</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://athinandshallowlight.com/" rel="external">Nikki Sawyers</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://sammurrell.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Sam Murrell</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://jandatell.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Jeff & Aubrey Tell</a></span></li></ol><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">News </span><span style="font-size:14px; ">(not really &ldquo;blogs&rdquo; but RSS feeds included)</span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; "><br /></span><ol class="arabic-numbers"><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/index.html?partner=rssnyt" rel="external">NY Times</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.slate.com/?reload=true" rel="external">Slate</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> </span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.macworld.com/" rel="external">Macworld</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://byfaithonline.com/page/feeds" rel="external">byFaith</a></span></li></ol><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">Church/Ministry/Theology</span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><ol class="arabic-numbers"><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://samrainer.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Church Forward (Sam Rainer)</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://blogs.lifeway.com/blog/edstetzer/" rel="external">Ed Stetzer</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://solapanel.org/" rel="external">The Sola Panel</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/" rel="external">Jesus Creed (Scot McKnight)</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://seminarysurvivalguide.com/" rel="external">Seminary Survival Guide</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/" rel="external">Internet Monk (Michael Spencer)</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/" rel="external">Parchment & Pen</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://biblicalhorizons.wordpress.com/" rel="external">Biblical Horizons</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.reformation21.org/" rel="external">Reformation21</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://twosons.blogspot.com/" rel="external">The Last Homely House</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.rabbitroom.com/" rel="external">The Rabbit Room</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://bobhyatt.typepad.com/pastorhacks/" rel="external">PastorHacks</a></span></li></ol><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">Random/Other</span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br /></span><ol class="arabic-numbers"><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.43folders.com/" rel="external">43 Folders (Merlin Mann)</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://cba-ramblings.blogspot.com/" rel="external">Rants & Ramblings on Life as a Literary Agent</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.michaelhyatt.com/fromwhereisit/" rel="external">From Where I Sit (Michael Hyatt)</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://unclutterer.com/" rel="external">Unclutterer</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.randsinrepose.com/" rel="external">Rands in Repose</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.gtdtimes.com/" rel="external">GTD Times</a></span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/" rel="external">How to Change the World (Guy Kawasaki)</a></span></li></ol><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />There it is. There&rsquo;s something in there for almost everyone, I think. Have fun!<br /><br /><br /></span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Book review: The Faith of Barack Obama</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><dc:date>2008-09-01T15:53:39-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/0d028d9bbc61f214bdfaf5f116ccf06d-165.php#unique-entry-id-165</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/0d028d9bbc61f214bdfaf5f116ccf06d-165.php#unique-entry-id-165</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img class="imageStyle" alt="" style="float:left; margin: 2px 8px 2px 0" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/1595552502.jpg" width="176" height="248"/><span style="font-size:14px; ">I was invited by </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://www.thomasnelson.com/" rel="external">Thomas Nelson</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> publishers to review one of their new titles, </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Faith of Barack Obama</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> by Stephen Mansfield. This is one of a small handful of books that are hitting the stores as the Democratic Presidential Nominee gains more attention in the U.S. and the world. Mansfield, who in 2004 wrote the similarly-eloquent title, </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>The Faith of George W. Bush</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, brought the same approach to this look at Senator Obama&rsquo;s life of faith.<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />You can&rsquo;t consider a man&rsquo;s story of faith without considering the story of his life, and Mansfield offers a brief but sufficient overview of Barack Obama&rsquo;s family, childhood, early adult life, and entrance into the political realm. Senator Obama&rsquo;s life story is rich and amazing in itself; through Mansfield&rsquo;s pen it is a delight to read. <br /><br />From there, the author presents us with Obama&rsquo;s re-introduction to Christianity-- a more personal one than the senator had encountered before. We also get a closer look at Trinity Church of Christ of Chicago and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, both of which were instrumental in Obama&rsquo;s spiritual awakening, as well as Rev. Wright&rsquo;s version of Black Liberation Theology, which was less a part of Obama&rsquo;s journey. And we are offered a brief contrast of Obama&rsquo;s faith story with those of Senator John McCain, Senator Hillary Clinton, and President George W. Bush.<br /><br />As a book, I appreciated Mansfield&rsquo;s insight and perspective very much. He was light-handed with his own interpretation, instead relying on extensive interviews and quotes to tell the stories of Senator Obama&rsquo;s life and faith for him. He was also mercifully light on political material or analysis, though at times (especially in later chapters) it emerged more explicitly, though not in a dogmatic way. Due to the timing of the book, I found some parts of it already felt a bit dated-- especially a couple of references to the likelihood that Obama would lose in the primaries-- but overall this aspect was masked fairly well.<br /><br />As a message-- and every book has a message-- I appreciated Mansfield&rsquo;s perspective, though less so. As </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="files/adcece1918c75a5cfe911b5b0c89039c-82.php" rel="self" title="Blog:What we should REALLY be concerned about...">I&rsquo;ve mentioned before</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, I accept Barack Obama&rsquo;s profession of faith as credible, and find it frustrating when people assume otherwise simply because of his name or his background. Mansfield does a fine job of addressing this, and perhaps that was a major goal for his writing; his style and approach is a positive one, focusing more on affirmation than expos&eacute;. But I felt that the questions that needed to be answered in a book like this went unaddressed, such as how much or how little Senator Obama embraces the prominent Black Liberation Theology of his (now former) pastor and church, or how he reconciles some of his more extreme views with his professed faith and trust in the Bible. As such, the book felt just a little unfinished-- as if the rush to press meant that the time ran out for the interviews that would answer these and other questions.<br /><br />Still, the country and the church-- especially the evangelical right-wing-- need this book, and others like it, to help us understand our brothers and sisters of the evangelical left. Overall, I&rsquo;ll rank this book at 8+.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Good&#x2c; funny stuff</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Personal</category><category>Culture</category><dc:date>2008-08-27T10:08:10-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d06c7c3abd37845ca08ecd3763d1c015-164.php#unique-entry-id-164</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/d06c7c3abd37845ca08ecd3763d1c015-164.php#unique-entry-id-164</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">When I was a senior (in high school), believe it or not, I was the theater guy. I did all the lights, sound, sets, and production stuff. Charlie Todd was a guy who went to the same school as I did, and I remember him as a seventh grader taking huge interest in all of that stuff, too.<br /><br />Fast forward 17 years, and </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><a href="http://www.improveverywhere.com/charlie_todd/index.html" rel="external">Charlie</a></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> is now a leading part of a group called </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><a href="http://improveverywhere.com/" rel="external">Improv Anywhere</a></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> (which he started). They do hilarious things.<br /><br />Yesterday I was reading a friend from seminary&rsquo;s blog, and lo and behold-- there&rsquo;s Charlie doing his thing: <br /></span><p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><object width="480" height="392" data="http://flash.revver.com/player/1.0/player.swf?mediaId=726498" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" id="revver726498121981841207639"><param name="Movie" value="http://flash.revver.com/player/1.0/player.swf?mediaId=726498"></param><param name="FlashVars" value="allowFullScreen=true"></param><param name="AllowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="AllowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://flash.revver.com/player/1.0/player.swf?mediaId=726498" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" allowScriptAccess="always" flashvars="allowFullScreen=true" allowfullscreen="true" height="392" width="480"></embed></object><br /></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">(HT: </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><a href="http://theortlunds.blogspot.com/2008/07/just-for-laughs.html" rel="external">Stacey</a></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">)</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Bad argument styles #2: using labels that don&#x27;t work</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-08-28T11:55:50-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/55f354620a6fc6f4c02d3924f19a570f-163.php#unique-entry-id-163</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/55f354620a6fc6f4c02d3924f19a570f-163.php#unique-entry-id-163</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">I once worked for a church where a member of the pastoral staff and I didn&rsquo;t fully agree on theological matters. He might have defined himself (in comparison to me) as more broadly evangelical, while I might have defined myself (in relation to him) as more traditionally Reformed. But when it came to </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>him</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> defining </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>me</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, the choice was simple.<br /><br />He called me a &ldquo;TR&rdquo;.<br /><br />If you&rsquo;ve never encountered the label &ldquo;TR&rdquo; before, it means &ldquo;Totally Reformed&rdquo; or &ldquo;Truly Reformed&rdquo;. This wasn&rsquo;t the first time I had encountered the label, but it was the first time I had been called one. (And the last, as far as I know.)<br /><br />When someone is called a TR, it doesn&rsquo;t really define a clear meaning of who they are, what they think, or where they stand on a position. Rather, it is a judgment waged entirely on one person&rsquo;s thoughts relative to another person.<br /><br />So many will use the label TR as a pejorative term: &ldquo;He&rsquo;s such a TR&rdquo; (meaning, &ldquo;he&rsquo;s more &lsquo;Reformed&rsquo; than me). Others will use it with a sense of theological hubris: &ldquo;I&rsquo;m a TR&rdquo; (meaning, &ldquo;I&rsquo;m more &lsquo;Reformed&rsquo; than you&rdquo;). In neither case is the term helpful.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">For years, the terms &ldquo;liberal&rdquo; and &ldquo;conservative&rdquo; have had clear and straightforward associations. Over that time, <br />they have served as categories that we might safely place ourselves (and others) within, which lends great understanding of what we (and others) think, believe, agree or disagree with, etc.<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />I believe that time has passed us by. I think these labels, like &ldquo;TR&rdquo;, are no longer helpful, but are simply used in either pejorative or haughty ways. <br /><br />As I recently read a book entitled, </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>A Handful of Pebbles: theological liberalism and the church</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, this idea (that the labels no longer serve a useful purpose) kept coming to mind. It wasn&rsquo;t unclear what the author meant by it, but it </span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; "><em>was</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> clear that he supposed that what he described as &ldquo;theological liberalism&rdquo; was all that there was to it. <br /><br />Is it possible that there are liberal ideas and ideals that (so-called) conservatives might also embrace? Or that there are conservative ideas and ideals that (so-called) liberals might embrace? Whether we are discussing theology, politics, social issues, or economics, I think the lines are blurring.<br /><br />For example, we have any number of people in political office today who are called &ldquo;conservatives&rdquo;-- yet these people are not &ldquo;conservative&rdquo; in every way: some may be fiscal conservatives, but social moderates and theological liberals. Similarly, there are many who are categorized as &ldquo;liberals&rdquo; who are socially and theologically conservative, but are politically liberal.<br /><br />And, of course, there is the matter of degree. Whether a person assumes the mantle of conservative or liberal, or more or less &ldquo;Reformed&rdquo;, they are doing so in comparison to others. And the problem with association by degrees was best articulated by Tim Keller:<br /></span><blockquote><p>No matter what you believe, there will always be someone to your &lsquo;right&rsquo;, as it were, who thinks you sold out the Gospel.</p></blockquote><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />Keller went on to illustrate by talking about living in community. So you think you know what vulnerable community is? he asks. Look at the Amish-- they blow us away when it comes to living in an intimate community.<br /><br />But, Keller says, a people-group like the Auca indians (the group that Jim and Elizabeth Elliot sought to reach as missionaries) will look at the Amish and write them off. You think you know intimate community? How can you-- you have walls! It turns out that the Aucas live in dwellings with no walls, and everything that anyone does is announced. When Elizabeth Elliot left her dwelling to go to the bathroom, someone would announce, &ldquo;the white woman is going down to the river to urinate&rdquo;.<br /><br />We have many, many categories and labels that are quite useful-- but we have a good number (more than we should) that aren&rsquo;t. So, how can we evaluate our labels? Here are a few questions to ask:<br /></span><ul class="circle"><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Am I labeling an idea, or a person? If I am labeling a person, am I being hasty in casting them into a group that they do not deserve to be in?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Why do I feel the need to apply a label or category to this person or idea? Will applying a label or category truly help me (and others) understand their point of view?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Is my use of labels or categories gracious and kind, giving credit where credit is due? Or is it something that tears another down or builds me up (or both)?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Is the label or category I am using an objective qualification of a particular view or idea? Or is it simply a means of comparing myself or someone else to others?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Does my use of labels or categories drive myself and others to Christ and to orthodoxy? Is speaking of someone or some idea in this way a credit to the Gospel?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Is my use of labels or categories something I would gladly say to the person I am speaking of? Could I say this to them without embarrassment or qualification? Would the feel honored and understood by my use of the label or category I am applying to them?</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Bad argument styles #1: The Bait-and-Switch</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-08-25T09:24:50-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/19d0f2370e5f9c65967019c0a0c605d8-161.php#unique-entry-id-161</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/19d0f2370e5f9c65967019c0a0c605d8-161.php#unique-entry-id-161</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">Closely related to </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="files/tag-logic.php" rel="self" title="Blog:Tag: logic">my ongoing discussion on logic</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> is the concept of argument style, which is really a part of rhetoric. As I can, I&rsquo;ll explore that concept as well. Here&rsquo;s the first installment.<br /><br />One of the problems that face us when we&rsquo;re dealing with arguments and dialogue is that, quite often, one side of the argument has done a good bit more consideration on the topic than the other side. This frequently leads to what I find to be a common problem in theological discussion: the Bait-and-Switch.<br /><br />The Bait-and-Switch looks like this: Two thinkers walk into a discussion. Thinker one (we&rsquo;ll call him Tom) is quite familiar with the topic of the discussion, while thinker two (who we shall call Ann) is only vaguely aware of the major points. <br /><br />In fact, Tom is not only familiar with the topic, but is well-convinced of his position, and has ready access to multiple articles and books that support his view. Ann, on the other hand, has perhaps encountered Tom&rsquo;s view before; maybe she has even read an article or two. It may be that she has a few reasons to question whether Tom&rsquo;s perspective is right, but she is, at very least, unwilling to be quick to change her views of what she considers orthodox.<br /><br />So when Tom encounters Ann, he tosses out a casual question to her that is phrased in such a way as to suggest that the question-- and (here&rsquo;s the important thing) the </span><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; "><em>intent of the question</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">-- is objective. Perhaps the question is worded ambiguously, or maybe it contains an asking phrase that requests the opinion of the other in an apparently sincere way.<br /><br />Ann takes the bait. She answers with a sincere statement of her opinion. She probably shoots from the hip to a fair degree, and she may very well disclaim exactly that. Her answer is brief, but it probably states a good bit (even all) of what she might have to say about the matter.<br /><br />So Tom sets the hook. If he&rsquo;s really good at this, he might ask a few follow-up questions that are similarly ambiguous, again appealing for her honest answer. Then he reels her in: she is suddenly blasted with an overwhelming amount of information. It might be in the form of an article cut-and-pasted into an e-mail, or a series of quotes (lots of them-- 15 or more) posted in the comments of a blog post, or the spoken dialogue switches to monologue for a time. The actual form doesn&rsquo;t really matter-- it&rsquo;s the result that does.<br /><br />If Tom gets his fish, then the result is that Ann is sucked into a discussion that she can&rsquo;t possibly win, and Tom will eventually demonstrate that he is right because his opponent cannot sufficiently out-argue him. (If Ann is smart, she jumps off the hook at the point when the first wave of overwhelming information comes.)<br /><br />Here&rsquo;s what is wrong with the above style of argument: <br /></span><ul class="disc"><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">It begins with deception. Tom presents himself as sincerely interested in Ann&rsquo;s opinion, when he is not. He asks a question or makes a statement that is worded to imply objectivity when none is present. Tom has set out to convince someone of his point of view, but acts like he is still arriving at it.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">From deception it moves to a psychological move on the order of </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini" rel="external">Cialdini</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">: because Ann has invested time and energy into this discussion, she feels obligated to continue. Tom capitalizes on this psychology, binding her into what amounts to a sales pitch.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Tom then beats her up and presents her as the defeated foe, which is a straw man fallacy (more on this in a future post). Ann never set out to be his foe, and she never presented herself as a representative for the &ldquo;other side&rdquo; of the topic. Yet Tom trumpets the &ldquo;other side&rdquo; as defeated because Ann has been defeated.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Overall, Tom has forsaken the loving fellowship that he might have with his sister in Christ for the sake of making his point. Deception, head games, and beating her up in argument is not the way to build a friendship, and surely Ann feels like she has been used and abused. Hardly a brotherly model.</span></li></ul><span style="font-size:14px; ">I won&rsquo;t judge Tom&rsquo;s motives behind this, and I&rsquo;m sure that what is in the heart of those who frequently employ this approach is not uniform. But I would suggest that one way to counter this instinct is to ask ourselves the following questions:<br /></span><ul class="circle"><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">What are my motives in asking the questions I am asking? Have I presented myself as undecided about something that I am actually decided on? If so, why?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Am I aware of whether or not my discussion partner(s) are as well-versed on the topic as I am? If they are not, have I graciously extended patience to them as they get up to speed? Have I been careful not to overwhelm them with too many different points of information, or simply too much information?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Have I been easy to disagree with? That is, has my spirit been forbearing and gracious toward them, so that they still feel cherished and valued as a fellow believer?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Have I represented our discussion as being more than it really is? Have I inappropriately positioned myself or those with whom I am discussing as the final representative of a position or view? </span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Am I willing to be wrong, if I could be shown from Scripture or from other evidence that my perspective is incorrect? If I have succeeded in demonstrating that someone else is wrong, have I been gracious and loving in the way that I exposed error, not lording it over them in a haughty manner?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; ">Overall, have I dealt with my discussion partner(s) in a manner that reflects love for a brother or sister in Christ? Would they gladly engage in another discussion with me in the future, even if they knew we disagreed? Would others inside and outside the church consider my manner of dealing with them as a credit to the gospel?</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>Fostering and Adoption: how we gave up the family a long time ago</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Culture</category><category>Church Life</category><dc:date>2008-08-26T09:05:08-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/85ad8e25b529a879f2a4a272df4df0bd-160.php#unique-entry-id-160</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/85ad8e25b529a879f2a4a272df4df0bd-160.php#unique-entry-id-160</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[There is <a href="http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2008/08/22/News/347603.html" rel="external">an interesting overture before the legislature of Arkansas</a> that, if it succeeds, would put a bill before the state that would outlaw adoption and foster care by unmarried people who live together.<br /><br />I find it interesting because it is addressing the very problem that, I believe, ended the current debate about same-sex marriage before it started: when we (and by that I mean the &ldquo;royal we&rdquo;-- the culture of our nation) granted same-sex couples the right to foster and adopt orphans, we tacitly allowed them to also define themselves as a family. How, then, could we possibly deny them other similar legal rights as a family?<br /><br />So the people of Arkansas have realized that-- or at least they have recognized that granting same-sex couples (and other unmarried couples as well) the right to adopt, they put the &ldquo;traditional&rdquo; understanding of family under threat. This is a pretty bold move, given the widespread acceptance of divorce and even co-habitation in our society.<br /><br />At the same time, I have to say I&rsquo;m sympathetic to the response from the &ldquo;other side&rdquo;-- in this case, including the social workers and others who want to see the huge numbers of orphans placed with families that can care for them better than the state. Is it not the case that ANY willing parent-- single, unmarried, homosexual-- who will offer love and care for a child is better than none, leaving children in state care?<br /><br />And this is where the rubber meets the road: if the church dares to demand that such measures be taken (i.e., stripping same-sex couples of the possibility of adoption), we <em>must</em> step up to improve our participation in adoption and foster care ourselves. We are biblically mandated to do so (James 1:27) if we claim to take the practice of our faith seriously. How can we say that unmarried couples must not be allowed to adopt, when they are willing to do what we are not?]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>LTD: the Slippery Slope Fallacy</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-09-09T09:57:44-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8212c3fc371f2397aae5fc9adc20bed0-159.php#unique-entry-id-159</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8212c3fc371f2397aae5fc9adc20bed0-159.php#unique-entry-id-159</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">Picking up on the discussion about fallacies, let&rsquo;s talk about a very common one: the Slippery Slope fallacy.<br /><br />The basic idea behind the Slippery Slope fallacy is that one event is simply a step along the way, and it will lead to another and another and so on until we inevitably arrive at something dire and drastic which no one wants. <br /><br />Slippery Slopes assume that there is a fixed path in one direction for every choice, and that they first step along that path always and inevitably leads to the end of the path.<br /><br />A good example from the Deaconess/women in diaconal ministry debate (which has become a good case study for understanding logic-- and logical error-- in theological discussion) is the following argument, which I&rsquo;ve heard or read a number of times over the last several months:<br /></span><blockquote><p>If we allow women to be ordained as Deacons, it will only be a matter of time before we are ordaining them as Ruling Elders and eventually Pastors!</p></blockquote><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />Now, this argument exhibits more than one fallacy (it also contains a &ldquo;False Cause&rdquo; fallacy, which we&rsquo;ll cover another time), but it is a clear Slippery Slope. I&rsquo;ll demonstrate why in just a moment.<br /><br />How do you argue against a Slippery Slope fallacy? There are essentially two ways:<br /></span><ul class="disc"><li><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">By counter-example:</span><span style="font-size:14px; "> a counter-example is an argument that follows the same form or concept of an argument, but arrives at a different conclusion. A good counter-example will expose a Slippery Slope&rsquo;s error.</span></li><li><span style="font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; ">By severing the link:</span><span style="font-size:14px; "> a Slippery Slope depends on the assumed link between the &ldquo;steps&rdquo; down the slope; break that link, and you&rsquo;ve demonstrated the error of the fallacy.</span></li></ul><span style="font-size:14px; ">To illustrate: a counter-example might be, &ldquo;Both the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church (ARP) and the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America (RPCNA) have ordained women as Deacons for decades, and both of these denominations are becoming </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>more</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>conservative</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> in their theology in general, not less.&rdquo; <br /><br />Meanwhile, here is a severance of the link: &ldquo;Your argument assumes that the office of Deacon and the office (or offices) of Ruling and Teaching Elder are essentially the same, and that a Deacon is merely an Elder-in-training or something of that sort. But Scripture makes it clear that one is inherently different from the other-- and that it is </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>not the case</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> that a Deacon is simply a &lsquo;Junior Elder.&rsquo; If the offices are different, then one doesn&rsquo;t necessarily lead to the other.&rdquo;</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>&#x22;In God We Trust&#x22;</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Culture</category><category>Church Life</category><dc:date>2008-09-16T08:49:44-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/4207e32c16ca04ffbe4a6ec663a8caaf-158.php#unique-entry-id-158</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/4207e32c16ca04ffbe4a6ec663a8caaf-158.php#unique-entry-id-158</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img class="imageStyle" alt="" style="float:left; margin: 2px 8px 2px 0" src="http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/photo.php.jpg" width="314" height="222"/><span style="font-size:14px; ">A friend of mine recently posted a series of notes on his social network discussing his concern for the fact that our national motto, &ldquo;In God We Trust,&rdquo; is being moved from the face of coins (as is common today) to the sides, or edges, of coins in some proposed future designs.<br /></span><span style="font-size:14px; "><br />My friend&rsquo;s concern is that, once the motto is moved to the edges of coins, it won&rsquo;t be long before it is removed entirely. This is a </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="files/8212c3fc371f2397aae5fc9adc20bed0-159.php" rel="self" title="Blog:LTD: the Slippery Slope Fallacy">Slippery Slope argument</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, but that&rsquo;s not what I&rsquo;m concerned about here. Instead, I&rsquo;m bothered by my friend&rsquo;s insistence that this bodes badly for the spiritual state of our nation.<br /><br />He asserts that we see all references to God being systematically removed from the &ldquo;arenas of our culture.&rdquo; This, he says, is a problem because, as with the motto on coins, this removes from the consciousness of the culture the truth of the </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>Biblical God</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">. I think he assumes too much in this.<br /><br />We in the church are accustomed to seeing the word &ldquo;God&rdquo; and immediately associating it with Yahweh, the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the trinitarian God. But I think the idea of &ldquo;god&rdquo; has become so vague and pass&eacute; outside of the church that there is little or no association with the Christian God in the word itself. <br /><br />For that matter, in a culture like ours-- where almost everyone has had </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>some</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> exposure to more than one religious belief system-- the notion of &ldquo;God&rdquo; may, as often as not, conjure up an association with Allah (the god of Islam), Gaia or some other pantheistic idea, Hinduism or some eastern religious concept, or even some personally-invented idolatry or paganism. It is clear from the studies that have been done that, while a very large majority of the population of the U.S. say they &ldquo;believe in God,&rdquo; the idea of god that those respondents hold is frequently anything other than an orthodox understanding of God.<br /><br />In stark contrast, I get the sense from my friend&rsquo;s posts that he considers the presence of our national motto as a great boon for the spread of the Gospel. While this might be an interesting conversation starter that could lead to an evangelistic opportunity, I&rsquo;ve never heard of anyone who actively inquired about spiritual truth because of the U.S. motto on currency. I could be dead wrong on this one, but I rank the motto on a coin as several notches below bumper stickers, t-shirts, and coffee mugs as tools for outreach.<br /><br />So here&rsquo;s my point: should my friend be up in arms? I don&rsquo;t think so. In fact, I think it is time and energy that is misplaced, that could have been spent doing actual ministry of evangelism and outreach. (So, too, is this post-- consider me sufficiently convicted.)</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>LTD: Fallacies and what they do</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Theology</category><dc:date>2008-09-02T09:54:54-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/246b0c8bb5c9adc555fad7ca6cdfa898-157.php#unique-entry-id-157</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/246b0c8bb5c9adc555fad7ca6cdfa898-157.php#unique-entry-id-157</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; ">Continuing my &ldquo;Logic for Theological Discussion&rdquo; series (which I will henceforth label &ldquo;LTD&rdquo;), I&rsquo;d like to talk today about fallacies: what they are and how they work.<br /><br />A fallacy is a part of an argument. Specifically, it is a part that is able to be shown to have a logical problem or flaw. Once that flaw is demonstrated, the whole argument fails. (When this is so, the argument is said to be &ldquo;fallacious.&rdquo;)<br /><br />You would be astonished at how frequently fallacies occur in arguments, from the most casual and conversational to the most articulate, meticulously word-smithed presentation. They are as common as the rain.<br /><br />When a fallacy occurs, it is usually a subtle, and can be hard to detect at first; this is often because more than one fallacy occurs at the same time, and one masks the other. Fallacies come in the form of matters of relevance, vague or ambiguous use of words or ideas, matters of correlation or cause, or exploiting some sort of emotional element in the listener.<br /><br />A good (and very common) example of a fallacy is the </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><em>Ad Hominem</em></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> fallacy. There are actually several different forms of an Ad Hominem (which is Latin, meaning &ldquo;to the person&rdquo;), but they all amount to something along the same lines: when you cannot strongly attack the argument itself, attack the person doing the arguing.<br /><br />For example: in the discussions surrounding the issue of women as deacons/deaconesses, something the &ldquo;pro&rdquo; side (in other words, they were for some form of diaconal service being open to women) would often say is, &ldquo;The reason the PCA&rsquo;s </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><em>Book of Church Order</em></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> is the way it is can be traced back to the reactionary tendencies of the PCA&rsquo;s founders.&rdquo; <br /><br />(Mea Culpa: I&rsquo;ve said some form of this statement before.)<br /><br />Let me first point out how this is an Ad Hominem fallacy: rather than addressing the argument-- namely, that the </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "><em>Book of Church Order</em></span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> as written prohibits any ordination of women to church office-- the response attacks the arguer. In this case, it means either, &ldquo;The writers of the BCO were wrong because they were reactionaries,&rdquo; or, &ldquo;If you agree with the BCO, then you are wrong because, since the writers of the BCO were reactionaries, so are you.&rdquo;<br /><br />Neither of these is </span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; font-weight:bold; font-weight:bold; ">relevant</span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> to the question of whether the BCO is correct in its interpretation and application of Scripture when it comes to women in diaconal service. Therefore, claiming that the writers were reactionaries has no real bearing on the soundness of the argument.<br /><br />How do you deal with an Ad Hominem fallacy when one is thrown at you? There are several strategies:<br /></span><ul class="circle"><li><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; font-weight:bold; font-weight:bold; ">Take the higher ground:</span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> ignore the fallacy and stick to the facts and real arguments. Give other listeners the benefit of the doubt in being able to recognize the fallacious quality of the argument. (Best when the Ad Hominem is obvious and blatant.)</span></li><li><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; font-weight:bold; font-weight:bold; ">Address it briefly:</span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> suggest that there is no reason to get distracted by name-calling, and request that you stick to the subject at hand instead of getting distracted by irrelevant opinions. (Best when the audience is neutral about whether the Ad Hominem is true, and/or when the Ad Hominem is based on a highly opinionated perspective rather than something more factually-based.)</span></li><li><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; font-weight:bold; font-weight:bold; ">Force them to work it out:</span><span style="font:14px Times, Georgia, Courier, serif; "> ask them probing questions about their claim, requiring them to explain the direct relevance of what they have said and gradually exposing their argument as a fallacy. (Best when the audience is favorable toward the fallacious position.)</span></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>The Bible&#x2c; authority&#x2c; and interpretation part 2</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Church Life</category><category>Ministry</category><dc:date>2008-08-21T17:17:31-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8aa23eb57cdb6fd01938d8a8acc98356-156.php#unique-entry-id-156</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/8aa23eb57cdb6fd01938d8a8acc98356-156.php#unique-entry-id-156</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:14px; ">Following up on </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><a href="files/b1ec13a9065dd863ffb5f773e34b8e58-155.php" rel="self" title="Blog:The Bible, authority, and interpretation part I">my previous post</a></span><span style="font-size:14px; ">, I&rsquo;ll continue my reflections from the fascinating conversation I got to be a part of earlier in the week.<br /><br />At another point in the conversation, one of these formerly legalistic teenagers commented on the damage that was done through this oppressive environment. Specifically, she said that she felt like no one was given any sense of their right to read the Bible for themselves. Instead, they were told what the Bible taught and what it meant for them.<br /><br />This is oppressive-- and brings to mind a significant part of the Protestant reformation, which was to translate the Bible into the language of the people (instead of only into Latin), so that people of than the priests and bishops could read it. There is an essential aspect of the faith that comes from reading Scripture; it is the Word of God for the people of God. And it is important that people know their Bibles so that they can test the teachings of others against the Word of God (remember the Bereans, who were praised for this in Acts 17:11).<br /><br />At the same time, the approach of the leaders in the legalistic community are a good example of how we tend to take sound principles too far, when there is actually a &ldquo;middle ground&rdquo; balance needed.<br /><br />Christians today too often take the &ldquo;democratization of the Bible&rdquo; too far; because the Reformers saw that it was important that people other than only the authorities of the church be able to read Scripture, today we have many who have decided that their interpretation of the Bible is as good as anyone&rsquo;s-- and maybe better.<br /><br />In fact, not everyone can interpret the Bible equally. Some have been trained extensively for interpreting the Bible-- learning the original languages of Hebrew and Greek, studying the history, archeaology, and peoples of biblical times, training in methods and approaches of how to study and interpret Scripture, and other ways of being trained. Others have read and studied their Bibles many times over, and they simply know the Scriptures well. Still others are, frankly, not familiar enough with the Bible to make the confident assertions of interpretation that they do.<br /><br />This isn&rsquo;t to say that not </span><span style="font-size:14px; "><em>everyone</em></span><span style="font-size:14px; "> ought to read their Bibles and, yes, make efforts at interpretation. But it is to say that all of us ought to remain teachable about even those biblical texts that we feel the most familiar with. And when we recognize that an interpretation we have made is at odds with an interpretation that others have made, we ought to be willing to hear the reasoning behind their interpretation with an open mind.<br /><br />Imagine, if you will, the person who dogmatically insists that his translation of a text, though totally at odds with everyone else, is the accurate one:<br /><br />Dogmatist:	This is what I believe the text is saying...<br />Elder:		I don&rsquo;t see how you got that from Scripture; instead, I think the text says this...<br />Dogmatist:	You&rsquo;re wrong. It says what I said.<br />Elder:		Well, let&rsquo;s consult these commentaries, written by contemporary scholars... and, yes, they disagree with your interpretation, also.<br />Dogmatist:	It doesn&rsquo;t matter. I&rsquo;m sticking with what I said.<br />Elder:		Okay, but now I&rsquo;ve consulted with the historical confessions, and they all assert that your interpretation is incorrect.<br />Dogmatist:	That&rsquo;s what they think. I know what my Bible says.<br />Elder:		But look here, where the early church fathers wrote about exactly that... and they all say the text means something different.<br />Dogmatist:	They can say what they want, but I still say it means what I said.<br /><br />This sounds a little far-fetched-- but I&rsquo;ve actually met people who were so convinced that their interpretation (and it always seems to be a &ldquo;new&rdquo; take on something) is right that they are willing to disagree with pastors, scholars, and others over 2000+ years of church history and interpretation of the Scripture. A wise pastor once said to me, &ldquo;if your interpretation is in complete disagreement with 2000 years of church history, you&rsquo;re very likely wrong.&rdquo;<br /><br />This is one of the reasons why I find the presbyterian approach to &ldquo;doing church&rdquo; so helpful. As presbyterians, the default position is that my voice alone is not the final word, nor is anyone else&rsquo;s. Instead, we constantly defer to one another with humility. As presbyterians, we trust that God is at work in the others in our congregation, our presbytery, our synod, or our assembly, at least as much as He has been at work in us to reveal the truth. There will always be times when it is possible that the larger bodies are wrong-- but then we turn to the greater history of the church and test our perspectives against that. The deference to the higher bodies is always present, and always keeping us accountable for our interpretation.<br /><br />We must read our Bibles, and we must work at interpretation. But we must also be ready to be shown that we are wrong. If we aren&rsquo;t, then we have made ourselves the author of Scripture-- for only the author can be utterly certain of the meaning of a text.</span>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title>The Bible&#x2c; authority&#x2c; and interpretation part I</title><dc:creator>Ed Eubanks, Jr.</dc:creator><category>Church Life</category><category>Ministry</category><dc:date>2008-08-20T10:22:34-05:00</dc:date><link>http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/b1ec13a9065dd863ffb5f773e34b8e58-155.php#unique-entry-id-155</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.hickorywithepc.org/Pastor/pastorblog/files/b1ec13a9065dd863ffb5f773e34b8e58-155.php#unique-entry-id-155</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:13px; ">The other day I was with a group of people who were talking about an especially legalistic environment that some of them had been a part of as teenagers-- a place where they were literally told what to believe, and that if they disagreed they would go to Hell. The leaders in this environment were, clearly, abusing their authority and making claims that no one person or group has a right to make.<br /><br />One person commented on the fact that I should get a lot of sermon illustrations from these stories! (He was right...) That got me to thinking about what the real applications really were. I&rsquo;d like to reflect on two broad applications here, over two posts.<br /><br />At one point I asked the question of this group: how did your parents (who were all Christians) continue to believe that it was good for you to be a part of this? After all, I said, you would surely come home and tell them all about it.<br /><br />Their first response demonstrated how powerful the authoritarian environment was:<br /></span><blockquote><p>No, we were told that if we reported on them we would go to Hell.</p></blockquote><span style="font-size:13px; "><br />[Note, by the way, the similar nature of this environment to a classic abusive relationship-- where the victim is told that THEY (the victim) would get in trouble if they told.]<br /><br />But as they went on, something else became clear. One of them said:<br /></span><blockquote><p>I was glad to be there. I needed a place where I could belong, and this place felt safe-- partly because of the rules.</p></blockquote><span style="font-size:13px; "><br />And there I saw my first sermon illustration: when it comes down to it, we all gravitate toward legalism. We are all legalists.<br /><br />When we&rsquo;re offered an environment where the rules are known, it becomes very easy to settle into that. We know where we stand in the pecking order; we are then able to proclaim with confidence precisely why we have merited the favor of God and men.<br /><br />I think this is what makes grace so threatening, so terrifying to all of us. If the work that earns us favor isn&rsquo;t our work (through legalism) but Christ&rsquo;s work imputed to us (by grace), we are actually dependent on something (grace) and someone (Christ) other than ourselves. <br /><br />This also illustrates why even communities that are defined by Christ&rsquo;s grace (namely, churches) quick